Comments on: The bitter truth about fructose alarmism. http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/ nutrition fitness training research fat loss muscle gain Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bill http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8975 Bill Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:37:01 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8975 Thanks for the link to the Wiki description of 'Straw man' and thanks for providing such an excellent example of how it works. Thanks for the link to the Wiki description of ‘Straw man’ and thanks for providing such an excellent example of how it works.

]]> By: Leo http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8937 Leo Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:05:35 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8937 Wow what a thread. Now we have established that calories are always going to matter first, what i would like to know is If someone is obvioulsy resistant to insulin and carbohydrates in a calorie deficit is it still beneficial to keep carbs on the lower side: less than 100 or 50g? Wow what a thread.

Now we have established that calories are always going to matter first, what i would like to know is If someone is obvioulsy resistant to insulin and carbohydrates in a calorie deficit is it still beneficial to keep carbs on the lower side: less than 100 or 50g?

]]> By: lf http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8894 lf Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:45:17 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8894 I am sorry but by reading this sounds like you haven't listened to the lecture at all or you might have missed some there are some holes and some points that are very disagreeable like the Japanese analogy that is true but you state for example that he fails to address dosage but he does address it , he also mention why eating fruit is better than straight HFCS , also mention and compares the percentage/ratio of glucose to fructose in sugar and HFCS and concludes that small amounts of fructose are ok . What I understood from his lecture is that we are bombarded with fructose via HFCS (it's everywhere) which has a higher fructose content than sugar and it is certainly one of the main causes of obesity but not the only one , how big of an influence? no one can't say for sure but it's up there .. there are other instances that you seem to have ignored/missed but it's not my job to point them out I think the science behind dr. Lustig’s lecture is solid even if he obviously tries to sell his point of view as the only valid one .. as many do including you I am sorry but by reading this sounds like you haven’t listened to the lecture at all or you might have missed some
there are some holes and some points that are very disagreeable like the Japanese analogy that is true
but you state for example that he fails to address dosage but he does address it , he also mention why eating fruit is better than straight HFCS , also mention and compares the percentage/ratio of glucose to fructose in sugar and HFCS and concludes that small amounts of fructose are ok .

What I understood from his lecture is that we are bombarded with fructose via HFCS (it’s everywhere) which has a higher fructose content than sugar and it is certainly one of the main causes of obesity but not the only one , how big of an influence? no one can’t say for sure but it’s up there
.. there are other instances that you seem to have ignored/missed but it’s not my job to point them out

I think the science behind dr. Lustig’s lecture is solid even if he obviously tries to sell his point of view as the only valid one .. as many do including you

]]> By: Can I eat... - Vancouver's Top Classifieds and Automotive Forum - REVscene.net http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8880 Can I eat... - Vancouver's Top Classifieds and Automotive Forum - REVscene.net Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:13:29 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8880 [...] this link as it relates specifically to that video: The bitter truth about fructose alarmism. | Alan Aragon's Blog here's a follow up to the original article with Dr. Lustig defending his claims with the author: [...] [...] this link as it relates specifically to that video: The bitter truth about fructose alarmism. | Alan Aragon's Blog here's a follow up to the original article with Dr. Lustig defending his claims with the author: [...]

]]> By: 4chan « Fitland http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8837 4chan « Fitland Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:45:38 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8837 [...] Fructose![147] Saturated Fats! Vegetable Fats! [...] [...] Fructose![147] Saturated Fats! Vegetable Fats! [...]

]]> By: Peter Smith http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8633 Peter Smith Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:40:10 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8633 Apologies if someone has already mentioned it (i've not read all the comments) but the analysis of the ERS data is poor. Someone has done it properly on fitocracy: http://www.fitocracy.com/forum/topic/6256/ Apologies if someone has already mentioned it (i’ve not read all the comments) but the analysis of the ERS data is poor. Someone has done it properly on fitocracy: http://www.fitocracy.com/forum/topic/6256/

]]> By: Kenneth http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-8403 Kenneth Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:00:48 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-8403 I'm glad that I stumbled on this article. The information here has been very interesting, and the back-and-forth in the comments is great too. I’m glad that I stumbled on this article. The information here has been very interesting, and the back-and-forth in the comments is great too.

]]> By: Tony Phylactou http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-7549 Tony Phylactou Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:21:11 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-7549 I had my first gout attack about 10 years ago. At the beginning I was having attacks every 6 months. Then gradually I was getting them every 3 months, then every month and eventually every week. It started at my big toe and then it was moving sometimes in my knees,and generally all around my joints, in my feet.And the pain was agonising. I have tried all the cures you can imagine.I tried ACV, lemons, drinking a lot of water, but to no avail.I tried water fasting, juice fasting,baking soda, again without success. I almost gave up meat, limiting it to only once a week ,gave up alcohol completely,again no success. I was living on vegetables, lots and lots of fresh fruit, milk ,cheese beans and so on .My eating habits could not be healthier ,or so I thought.But my gout was worsening. Then I decided to increase the amount of fruit I was consuming, thinking that if some fruit is healthy, more fruit will be more healthy.Some days I was eating fruit only ,others over 10 portions a day. And alas my gout instead of improving it became chronic ,it was there all the time. I was desperate I did not know what to do. And then one day accidentally I read an article about fructose,which is contained in fruit in large quantities.It said that it increases uric acid, in a matter of minutes. Fructose is also present in table sugar, and in HFCS, which is used in soft drinks. I put two and two together and realised what I was doing wrong. I stopped eating fruit and all other sugars, for a period of 3 weeks,and by magic I saw a dramatic improvement.Pain was gone, swelling was gone, I was fine. I re introduced fruit again in my diet but reducing them to 1 or 2 a day, and my gout completely disappeared. I do eat more meat now, and occasionally have an alcoholic drink, and thank God everything seems to be fine. Fructose was my enemy. I had my first gout attack about 10 years ago.
At the beginning I was having attacks every 6 months. Then gradually I was getting them
every 3 months, then every month and eventually every week.
It started at my big toe and then it was moving sometimes in my knees,and generally all
around my joints, in my feet.And the pain was agonising.
I have tried all the cures you can imagine.I tried ACV, lemons, drinking a lot of water, but
to no avail.I tried water fasting, juice fasting,baking soda, again without success.
I almost gave up meat, limiting it to only once a week ,gave up alcohol completely,again
no success.
I was living on vegetables, lots and lots of fresh fruit, milk ,cheese beans and so on .My
eating habits could not be healthier ,or so I thought.But my gout was worsening.
Then I decided to increase the amount of fruit I was consuming, thinking that if some fruit
is healthy, more fruit will be more healthy.Some days I was eating fruit only ,others over 10
portions a day.
And alas my gout instead of improving it became chronic ,it was there all the time.
I was desperate I did not know what to do.
And then one day accidentally I read an article about fructose,which is contained in fruit in
large quantities.It said that it increases uric acid, in a matter of minutes.
Fructose is also present in table sugar, and in HFCS, which is used in soft drinks.
I put two and two together and realised what I was doing wrong.
I stopped eating fruit and all other sugars, for a period of 3 weeks,and by magic I saw a
dramatic improvement.Pain was gone, swelling was gone, I was fine.
I re introduced fruit again in my diet but reducing them to 1 or 2 a day, and my gout completely
disappeared.
I do eat more meat now, and occasionally have an alcoholic drink, and thank God everything
seems to be fine.
Fructose was my enemy.

]]> By: JLB http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-6909 JLB Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:27:43 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-6909 Mike, About fructose and glycation, give this a read, you might learn something: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/139/6/1219S.full Mike,

About fructose and glycation, give this a read, you might learn something: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/139/6/1219S.full

]]> By: JLB http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/comment-page-1/#comment-6908 JLB Sun, 06 Nov 2011 05:22:53 +0000 http://www.alanaragonblog.com/?p=883#comment-6908 Pete, If you can't understand that thresholds of neutrality differ drastically between substances, and that using cyanide in an example is a false analogy, then I think you're beyond help. I think you're better off reading fairy tale books than this blog, they might fit your reasoning better. Pete,

If you can’t understand that thresholds of neutrality differ drastically between substances, and that using cyanide in an example is a false analogy, then I think you’re beyond help. I think you’re better off reading fairy tale books than this blog, they might fit your reasoning better.

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